This (iPod) Red is quite nice. iTunes Sucks.

by Brad Grier on December 25, 2006

in Miscellaneous

Santa was very kind to me this Christmas; a spiffy new iPod nano (PRODUCT RED)TM Special Edition. I'm amazed at how small and functional it is, and was again impressed at Apple's attention to detail in package design and overall thought in the little details; the USB cable cover had a little clip extension that held the USB cable wires in nice and tight.

Now, iTunes on the other hand is a bit of a bear. I've got a few hundred MP3's that I've ripped from CD's over the years, stored on my household server. All nicely arranged by folder, artist, album, song, etc. I'll be damned if I can figure out how to to get iTunes to understand that that structure actually means something, and that it should really read that (as well as the embedded MP3 tag information) into it's database structure when displaying the music selections to me.

And why does iTunes need to 'Determine Gapless Playback Information' on every tune it scans on my system. It's rather slow (~30 sec per tune).

And why can I not view the album information from the iTunes store if I don't have an account, which requires a credit card?

Meh, there has to be a better way. For XP or Ubuntu. Either will do.

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{ 10 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Viajero Perdido December 25, 2006 at 10:15 pm

Con­grats on the new toy!

I think iTunes *6* is awe­some. I don’t use it with an iPod; I just use it to play MP3s on the PC and on my ste­reo. The last part is bril­liant — I have a Sound­Bridge gizmo that con­nects to iTunes on my PC using WiFi, and plays my playl­ists through the ste­reo. Won­der­ful, and it does inter­net radio too, bypassing the PC completely.

How­ever, iTunes *7* broke all con­nectiv­ity with the Sound­Bridge, even though the Sound­Bridge folks had an agree­ment with Apple for using the tech­no­logy. Apple seems to have no interest in fix­ing that, and the Sound­Bridge folks are scram­bling for a fix to what I think is their best selling point.

I am SO glad I didn’t upgrade to iTunes 7, and that I warned my friend about it before he wrecked his Sound­Bridge con­nec­tion too. (He was about to “upgrade” that even­ing; good thing I poin­ted out the problem.)

2 Brad Grier December 26, 2006 at 8:03 am

Cool! Looks like you have a handy util­ity there. After I googled Sound­bridge, I see what you mean!

I have sim­ilar func­tion­al­ity with my mod­ded xboxen, and a dlink media centre unit. Both can use the exist­ing server’s file struc­ture and under­stand the mp3 tag inform­a­tion properly.

iTunes could learn from them, it’s not overly complex.

3 chris December 27, 2006 at 2:38 pm

excel­lent ipod, brad. i’m jealous!

i guess your take on itunes is valid, but not every­one likes micro­man­aging their com­puter files to that extent. i’ve tried it with music files in the past and it always ends up becom­ing a night­mare. i’m much much hap­pier let­ting itunes do all the work for me so if, for example, i need to find a spe­cific track, i can start typ­ing in the search win­dow and watch the lib­rary whittle down in real-time until i see the one i’m look­ing for, instead of rum­ma­ging through folders. i’d much rather leave all of that stuff to a one-window pro­gram. maybe that makes me your ste­reo­typ­ical mac user ;-)

as for the sound­bridge issue — in the past that’s usu­ally been a sign that apple is about to unleash some­thing in the same gen­eral marketplace…google ‘apple’ and ‘itv’ and think wire­less high-def video, music, pho­tos etc. to your big screen tv…

4 Brad Grier December 27, 2006 at 5:20 pm

Hey Chris, yeah, I’m lik­ing this ‘pod.

I think my big beef with iTunes is that I don’t find it intu­it­ive (unlike the iPod! Go fig­ure). Maybe I’m just too old-school with my file organ­iz­ing :-)

I have found one solu­tion that seems to be work­ing for me, for now…there’s an iPod plu­gin for Win­amp that will do music man­age­ment, art­work import..etc. Very cool. I need to play around with it some more to really under­stand it, but it seems to work the way I ‘expect’ a music man­ager to work.

re: sound­bridge et al…cool. One issue I have with cur­rent wire­less tech­no­logy is that it *won’t* stream hi-def video…not enough band­width. That’s the issue we have with our dlink unit.…wi-fi is not usable for video. Audio is fine, but I ended up run­ning a cat5 cable through our duct­work to get 100mbps to it. It’d be nice to have wire­less video, that’s for sure!

5 Viajero Perdido December 28, 2006 at 1:59 pm

Hey Brad, speak­ing of iTunes… Do you know of any­thing that works as well as it does (or reas­on­ably close) on Ubuntu?

My old PC is start­ing to die, and I think its replace­ment will have Linux next to the metal, with Win­dows only inside a sandbox…

VP

6 Brad Grier December 29, 2006 at 10:44 am

This art­icle may help you out…it out­lines how an iPod can work with Ubuntu. I’m not using it yet, but may start soon…

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266

I’m cur­rently run­ning win­amp to man­age music…seems to work ok, though it may have missed a few pod­casts, I’m still evaluating.

7 Scratch January 2, 2007 at 3:41 pm

Yep Brad — you hit the nail on the head.

I learned many years ago (when I atten­ded my first ‘de-brainwashing’ at Mac U) that organ­ized file sys­tems and folder cat­egor­iz­a­tion are for DOS-Fiends.

Once I let iTunes and iPhoto do their thing — the world got bet­ter. On win­dows though — you really are a little under the rule of DOS though. Hope you fig­ure some­thing out. iTunes (when not used for ‘paid’ con­tent) is quite good at man­aging and play­ing music… you just gotta let go.….

Cheers!

8 Brad Grier January 2, 2007 at 9:12 pm

Hey Scratch,

Yeah, I kinda get the feel­ing that iTunes really wants to run the show. If I had my music lib­rary on a stand-alone com­puter, no prob­lem. But since I’ve got it on a net­worked server accessed by Xbox Media Centres, D-link media centre, wire­less palms…etc, I really need it in an access­ible location…hence the SMB share on my Ubuntu server ;-)

Call me old school, but I like hav­ing a CD to kick around too…

9 Steve March 4, 2007 at 7:36 am

Just received an Ipod 30gb. Yes, iTunes is awful par­tic­u­larly if, like me, you use a PC and a laptop as iTunes will only allow one desktop — one sync. I’m using Floola which is a drag ‘n drop Explorer style pro­gram for the iPod. Simple & effect­ive, give it a go

10 Brad Grier March 4, 2007 at 8:06 am

Nice! I have my ipod syncing with my laptop, but it would be easier if it really didn’t care where it was syncing. Thanks for the pointer, I’ll check out Floola!

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